1. Morality and Authority

The Socratic Method of Philosophical Inquiry

1.  Read Plato’s dialogue “Euthyphro” at http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html.

2.  Define the term “morality” by answering Euthyphro’s dilemma.

If you were Euthyphro, how would you have responded when Socrates inquired:

“Is an action morally good because God commands it,
or does God command it because it is morally good?”

3. Read Euthyphro’s Dilemma at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_Dilemma

4. Read Divine Command Theory at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_command_theory.

“EUTHYPHRO”

by Plato

Written 380 B.C.E

Translated by Benjamin Jowett

Persons of the Dialogue
Socrates
Euthyphro

Scene
The Porch of the King Archon.

Euthyphro. Why have you left the Lyceum, Socrates? and what are you doing in the Porch of the King Archon? Surely you cannot be concerned in a suit before the King, like myself?

Socrates. Not in a suit, Euthyphro; impeachment is the word which the Athenians use.

Euth. What! I suppose that some one has been prosecuting you, for I cannot believe that you are the prosecutor of another.

Soc. Certainly not.

Euth. Then some one else has been prosecuting you?

Soc. Yes.

Euth. And who is he?

Soc. A young man who is little known, Euthyphro; and I hardly know him: his name is Meletus, and he is of the deme of Pitthis. Perhaps you may remember his appearance; he has a beak, and long straight hair, and a beard which is ill grown.

Euth. No, I do not remember him, Socrates. But what is the charge which he brings against you?

Soc. What is the charge? Well, a very serious charge, which shows a good deal of character in the young man, and for which he is certainly not to be despised. He says he knows how the youth are corrupted and who are their corruptors. I fancy that he must be a wise man, and seeing that I am the reverse of a wise man, he has found me out, and is going to accuse me of corrupting his young friends. And of this our mother the state is to be the judge. Of all our political men he is the only one who seems to me to begin in the right way, with the cultivation of virtue in youth; like a good husbandman, he makes the young shoots his first care, and clears away us who are the destroyers of them. This is only the first step; he will afterwards attend to the elder branches; and if he goes on as he has begun, he will be a very great public benefactor.

Euth. I hope that he may; but I rather fear, Socrates, that the opposite will turn out to be the truth. My opinion is that in attacking you he is simply aiming a blow at the foundation of the state. But in what way does he say that you corrupt the young?

Soc. He brings a wonderful accusation against me, which at first hearing excites surprise: he says that I am a poet or maker of gods, and that I invent new gods and deny the existence of old ones; this is the ground of his indictment.

Euth. I understand, Socrates; he means to attack you about the familiar sign which occasionally, as you say, comes to you. He thinks that you are a neologian, and he is going to have you up before the court for this. He knows that such a charge is readily received by the world, as I myself know too well; for when I speak in the assembly about divine things, and foretell the future to them, they laugh at me and think me a madman. Yet every word that I say is true. But they are jealous of us all; and we must be brave and go at them.

Soc. Their laughter, friend Euthyphro, is not a matter of much consequence. For a man may be thought wise; but the Athenians, I suspect, do not much trouble themselves about him until he begins to impart his wisdom to others, and then for some reason or other, perhaps, as you say, from jealousy, they are angry.

Euth. I am never likely to try their temper in this way.

Soc. I dare say not, for you are reserved in your behaviour, and seldom impart your wisdom. But I have a benevolent habit of pouring out myself to everybody, and would even pay for a listener, and I am afraid that the Athenians may think me too talkative. Now if, as I was saying, they would only laugh at me, as you say that they laugh at you, the time might pass gaily enough in the court; but perhaps they may be in earnest, and then what the end will be you soothsayers only can predict.

Euth. I dare say that the affair will end in nothing, Socrates, and that you will win your cause; and I think that I shall win my own.

Soc. And what is your suit, Euthyphro? are you the pursuer or the defendant?

Euth. I am the pursuer.

Soc. Of whom?

Euth. You will think me mad when I tell you.

Soc. Why, has the fugitive wings?

Euth. Nay, he is not very volatile at his time of life.

Soc. Who is he?

Euth. My father.

Soc. Your father! my good man?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. And of what is he accused?

Euth. Of murder, Socrates.

Soc. By the powers, Euthyphro! how little does the common herd know of the nature of right and truth. A man must be an extraordinary man, and have made great strides in wisdom, before he could have seen his way to bring such an action.

Euth. Indeed, Socrates, he must.

Soc. I suppose that the man whom your father murdered was one of your relatives-clearly he was; for if he had been a stranger you would never have thought of prosecuting him.

Euth. I am amused, Socrates, at your making a distinction between one who is a relation and one who is not a relation; for surely the pollution is the same in either case, if you knowingly associate with the murderer when you ought to clear yourself and him by proceeding against him. The real question is whether the murdered man has been justly slain. If justly, then your duty is to let the matter alone; but if unjustly, then even if the murderer lives under the same roof with you and eats at the same table, proceed against him. Now the man who is dead was a poor dependent of mine who worked for us as a field labourer on our farm in Naxos, and one day in a fit of drunken passion he got into a quarrel with one of our domestic servants and slew him. My father bound him hand and foot and threw him into a ditch, and then sent to Athens to ask of a diviner what he should do with him. Meanwhile he never attended to him and took no care about him, for he regarded him as a murderer; and thought that no great harm would be done even if he did die. Now this was just what happened. For such was the effect of cold and hunger and chains upon him, that before the messenger returned from the diviner, he was dead. And my father and family are angry with me for taking the part of the murderer and prosecuting my father. They say that he did not kill him, and that if he did, dead man was but a murderer, and I ought not to take any notice, for that a son is impious who prosecutes a father. Which shows, Socrates, how little they know what the gods think about piety and impiety.

Soc. Good heavens, Euthyphro! and is your knowledge of religion and of things pious and impious so very exact, that, supposing the circumstances to be as you state them, you are not afraid lest you too may be doing an impious thing in bringing an action against your father?

Euth. The best of Euthyphro, and that which distinguishes him, Socrates, from other men, is his exact knowledge of all such matters. What should I be good for without it?

Soc. Rare friend! I think that I cannot do better than be your disciple. Then before the trial with Meletus comes on I shall challenge him, and say that I have always had a great interest in religious questions, and now, as he charges me with rash imaginations and innovations in religion, I have become your disciple. You, Meletus, as I shall say to him, acknowledge Euthyphro to be a great theologian, and sound in his opinions; and if you approve of him you ought to approve of me, and not have me into court; but if you disapprove, you should begin by indicting him who is my teacher, and who will be the ruin, not of the young, but of the old; that is to say, of myself whom he instructs, and of his old father whom he admonishes and chastises. And if Meletus refuses to listen to me, but will go on, and will not shift the indictment from me to you, I cannot do better than repeat this challenge in the court.

Euth. Yes, indeed, Socrates; and if he attempts to indict me I am mistaken if I do not find a flaw in him; the court shall have a great deal more to say to him than to me.

Soc. And I, my dear friend, knowing this, am desirous of becoming your disciple. For I observe that no one appears to notice you- not even this Meletus; but his sharp eyes have found me out at once, and he has indicted me for impiety. And therefore, I adjure you to tell me the nature of piety and impiety, which you said that you knew so well, and of murder, and of other offences against the gods. What are they? Is not piety in every action always the same? and impiety, again- is it not always the opposite of piety, and also the same with itself, having, as impiety, one notion which includes whatever is impious?

Euth. To be sure, Socrates.

Soc. And what is piety, and what is impiety?

Euth. Piety is doing as I am doing; that is to say, prosecuting any one who is guilty of murder, sacrilege, or of any similar crime-whether he be your father or mother, or whoever he may be-that makes no difference; and not to prosecute them is impiety. And please to consider, Socrates, what a notable proof I will give you of the truth of my words, a proof which I have already given to others:-of the principle, I mean, that the impious, whoever he may be, ought not to go unpunished. For do not men regard Zeus as the best and most righteous of the gods?-and yet they admit that he bound his father (Cronos) because he wickedly devoured his sons, and that he too had punished his own father (Uranus) for a similar reason, in a nameless manner. And yet when I proceed against my father, they are angry with me. So inconsistent are they in their way of talking when the gods are concerned, and when I am concerned.

Soc. May not this be the reason, Euthyphro, why I am charged with impiety-that I cannot away with these stories about the gods? and therefore I suppose that people think me wrong. But, as you who are well informed about them approve of them, I cannot do better than assent to your superior wisdom. What else can I say, confessing as I do, that I know nothing about them? Tell me, for the love of Zeus, whether you really believe that they are true.

Euth. Yes, Socrates; and things more wonderful still, of which the world is in ignorance.

Soc. And do you really believe that the gods, fought with one another, and had dire quarrels, battles, and the like, as the poets say, and as you may see represented in the works of great artists? The temples are full of them; and notably the robe of Athene, which is carried up to the Acropolis at the great Panathenaea, is embroidered with them. Are all these tales of the gods true, Euthyphro?

Euth. Yes, Socrates; and, as I was saying, I can tell you, if you would like to hear them, many other things about the gods which would quite amaze you.

Soc. I dare say; and you shall tell me them at some other time when I have leisure. But just at present I would rather hear from you a more precise answer, which you have not as yet given, my friend, to the question, What is “piety”? When asked, you only replied, Doing as you do, charging your father with murder.

Euth. And what I said was true, Socrates.

Soc. No doubt, Euthyphro; but you would admit that there are many other pious acts?

Euth. There are.

Soc. Remember that I did not ask you to give me two or three examples of piety, but to explain the general idea which makes all pious things to be pious. Do you not recollect that there was one idea which made the impious impious, and the pious pious?

Euth. I remember.

Soc. Tell me what is the nature of this idea, and then I shall have a standard to which I may look, and by which I may measure actions, whether yours or those of any one else, and then I shall be able to say that such and such an action is pious, such another impious.

Euth. I will tell you, if you like.

Soc. I should very much like.

Euth. Piety, then, is that which is dear to the gods, and impiety is that which is not dear to them.

Soc. Very good, Euthyphro; you have now given me the sort of answer which I wanted. But whether what you say is true or not I cannot as yet tell, although I make no doubt that you will prove the truth of your words.

Euth. Of course.

Soc. Come, then, and let us examine what we are saying. That thing or person which is dear to the gods is pious, and that thing or person which is hateful to the gods is impious, these two being the extreme opposites of one another. Was not that said?

Euth. It was.

Soc. And well said?

Euth. Yes, Socrates, I thought so; it was certainly said.

Soc. And further, Euthyphro, the gods were admitted to have enmities and hatreds and differences?

Euth. Yes, that was also said.

Soc. And what sort of difference creates enmity and anger? Suppose for example that you and I, my good friend, differ about a number; do differences of this sort make us enemies and set us at variance with one another? Do we not go at once to arithmetic, and put an end to them by a sum?

Euth. True.

Soc. Or suppose that we differ about magnitudes, do we not quickly end the differences by measuring?

Euth. Very true.

Soc. And we end a controversy about heavy and light by resorting to a weighing machine?

Euth. To be sure.

Soc. But what differences are there which cannot be thus decided, and which therefore make us angry and set us at enmity with one another? I dare say the answer does not occur to you at the moment, and therefore I will suggest that these enmities arise when the matters of difference are the just and unjust, good and evil, honourable and dishonourable. Are not these the points about which men differ, and about which when we are unable satisfactorily to decide our differences, you and I and all of us quarrel, when we do quarrel?

Euth. Yes, Socrates, the nature of the differences about which we quarrel is such as you describe.

Soc. And the quarrels of the gods, noble Euthyphro, when they occur, are of a like nature?

Euth. Certainly they are.

Soc. They have differences of opinion, as you say, about good and evil, just and unjust, honourable and dishonourable: there would have been no quarrels among them, if there had been no such differences-would there now?

Euth. You are quite right.

Soc. Does not every man love that which he deems noble and just and good, and hate the opposite of them?

Euth. Very true.

Soc. But, as you say, people regard the same things, some as just and others as unjust,-about these they dispute; and so there arise wars and fightings among them.

Euth. Very true.

Soc. Then the same things are hated by the gods and loved by the gods, and are both hateful and dear to them?

Euth. True.

Soc. And upon this view the same things, Euthyphro, will be pious and also impious?

Euth. So I should suppose.

Soc. Then, my friend, I remark with surprise that you have not answered the question which I asked. For I certainly did not ask you to tell me what action is both pious and impious: but now it would seem that what is loved by the gods is also hated by them. And therefore, Euthyphro, in thus chastising your father you may very likely be doing what is agreeable to Zeus but disagreeable to Cronos or Uranus, and what is acceptable to Hephaestus but unacceptable to Here, and there may be other gods who have similar differences of opinion.

Euth. But I believe, Socrates, that all the gods would be agreed as to the propriety of punishing a murderer: there would be no difference of opinion about that.

Soc. Well, but speaking of men, Euthyphro, did you ever hear any one arguing that a murderer or any sort of evil-doer ought to be let off?

Euth. I should rather say that these are the questions which they are always arguing, especially in courts of law: they commit all sorts of crimes, and there is nothing which they will not do or say in their own defence.

Soc. But do they admit their guilt, Euthyphro, and yet say that they ought not to be punished?

Euth. No; they do not.

Soc. Then there are some things which they do not venture to say and do: for they do not venture to argue that the guilty are to be unpunished, but they deny their guilt, do they not?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. Then they do not argue that the evil-doer should not be punished, but they argue about the fact of who the evil-doer is, and what he did and when?

Euth. True.

Soc. And the gods are in the same case, if as you assert they quarrel about just and unjust, and some of them say while others deny that injustice is done among them. For surely neither God nor man will ever venture to say that the doer of injustice is not to be punished?

Euth. That is true, Socrates, in the main.

Soc. But they join issue about the particulars-gods and men alike; and, if they dispute at all, they dispute about some act which is called in question, and which by some is affirmed to be just, by others to be unjust. Is not that true?

Euth. Quite true.

Soc. Well then, my dear friend Euthyphro, do tell me, for my better instruction and information, what proof have you that in the opinion of all the gods a servant who is guilty of murder, and is put in chains by the master of the dead man, and dies because he is put in chains before he who bound him can learn from the interpreters of the gods what he ought to do with him, dies unjustly; and that on behalf of such an one a son ought to proceed against his father and accuse him of murder. How would you show that all the gods absolutely agree in approving of his act? Prove to me that they do, and I will applaud your wisdom as long as I live.

Euth. It will be a difficult task; but I could make the matter very dear indeed to you.

Soc. I understand; you mean to say that I am not so quick of apprehension as the judges: for to them you will be sure to prove that the act is unjust, and hateful to the gods.

Euth. Yes indeed, Socrates; at least if they will listen to me.

Soc. But they will be sure to listen if they find that you are a good speaker. There was a notion that came into my mind while you were speaking; I said to myself: “Well, and what if Euthyphro does prove to me that all the gods regarded the death of the serf as unjust, how do I know anything more of the nature of piety and impiety? for granting that this action may be hateful to the gods, still piety and impiety are not adequately defined by these distinctions, for that which is hateful to the gods has been shown to be also pleasing and dear to them.” And therefore, Euthyphro, I do not ask you to prove this; I will suppose, if you like, that all the gods condemn and abominate such an action. But I will amend the definition so far as to say that what all the gods hate is impious, and what they love pious or holy; and what some of them love and others hate is both or neither. Shall this be our definition of piety and impiety?

Euth. Why not, Socrates?

Soc. Why not! certainly, as far as I am concerned, Euthyphro, there is no reason why not. But whether this admission will greatly assist you in the task of instructing me as you promised, is a matter for you to consider.

Euth. Yes, I should say that what all the gods love is pious and holy, and the opposite which they all hate, impious.

Soc. Ought we to enquire into the truth of this, Euthyphro, or simply to accept the mere statement on our own authority and that of others? What do you say?

Euth. We should enquire; and I believe that the statement will stand the test of enquiry.

Soc. We shall know better, my good friend, in a little while. The point which I should first wish to understand is whether the pious or holy is beloved by the gods because it is holy, or holy because it is beloved of the gods.

Euth. I do not understand your meaning, Socrates.

Soc. I will endeavour to explain: we, speak of carrying and we speak of being carried, of leading and being led, seeing and being seen. You know that in all such cases there is a difference, and you know also in what the difference lies?

Euth. I think that I understand.

Soc. And is not that which is beloved distinct from that which loves?

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. Well; and now tell me, is that which is carried in this state of carrying because it is carried, or for some other reason?

Euth. No; that is the reason.

Soc. And the same is true of what is led and of what is seen?

Euth. True.

Soc. And a thing is not seen because it is visible, but conversely, visible because it is seen; nor is a thing led because it is in the state of being led, or carried because it is in the state of being carried, but the converse of this. And now I think, Euthyphro, that my meaning will be intelligible; and my meaning is, that any state of action or passion implies previous action or passion. It does not become because it is becoming, but it is in a state of becoming because it becomes; neither does it suffer because it is in a state of suffering, but it is in a state of suffering because it suffers. Do you not agree?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. Is not that which is loved in some state either of becoming or suffering?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. And the same holds as in the previous instances; the state of being loved follows the act of being loved, and not the act the state.

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. And what do you say of piety, Euthyphro: is not piety, according to your definition, loved by all the gods?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. Because it is pious or holy, or for some other reason?

Euth. No, that is the reason.

Soc. It is loved because it is holy, not holy because it is loved?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. And that which is dear to the gods is loved by them, and is in a state to be loved of them because it is loved of them?

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. Then that which is dear to the gods, Euthyphro, is not holy, nor is that which is holy loved of God, as you affirm; but they are two different things.

Euth. How do you mean, Socrates?

Soc. I mean to say that the holy has been acknowledge by us to be loved of God because it is holy, not to be holy because it is loved.

Euth. Yes.

Soc. But that which is dear to the gods is dear to them because it is loved by them, not loved by them because it is dear to them.

Euth. True.

Soc. But, friend Euthyphro, if that which is holy is the same with that which is dear to God, and is loved because it is holy, then that which is dear to God would have been loved as being dear to God; but if that which dear to God is dear to him because loved by him, then that which is holy would have been holy because loved by him. But now you see that the reverse is the case, and that they are quite different from one another. For one (theophiles) is of a kind to be loved cause it is loved, and the other (osion) is loved because it is of a kind to be loved. Thus you appear to me, Euthyphro, when I ask you what is the essence of holiness, to offer an attribute only, and not the essence-the attribute of being loved by all the gods. But you still refuse to explain to me the nature of holiness. And therefore, if you please, I will ask you not to hide your treasure, but to tell me once more what holiness or piety really is, whether dear to the gods or not (for that is a matter about which we will not quarrel) and what is impiety?

Euth. I really do not know, Socrates, how to express what I mean. For somehow or other our arguments, on whatever ground we rest them, seem to turn round and walk away from us.

Soc. Your words, Euthyphro, are like the handiwork of my ancestor Daedalus; and if I were the sayer or propounder of them, you might say that my arguments walk away and will not remain fixed where they are placed because I am a descendant of his. But now, since these notions are your own, you must find some other gibe, for they certainly, as you yourself allow, show an inclination to be on the move.

Euth. Nay, Socrates, I shall still say that you are the Daedalus who sets arguments in motion; not I, certainly, but you make them move or go round, for they would never have stirred, as far as I am concerned.

Soc. Then I must be a greater than Daedalus: for whereas he only made his own inventions to move, I move those of other people as well. And the beauty of it is, that I would rather not. For I would give the wisdom of Daedalus, and the wealth of Tantalus, to be able to detain them and keep them fixed. But enough of this. As I perceive that you are lazy, I will myself endeavor to show you how you might instruct me in the nature of piety; and I hope that you will not grudge your labour. Tell me, then-Is not that which is pious necessarily just?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. And is, then, all which is just pious? or, is that which is pious all just, but that which is just, only in part and not all, pious?

Euth. I do not understand you, Socrates.

Soc. And yet I know that you are as much wiser than I am, as you are younger. But, as I was saying, revered friend, the abundance of your wisdom makes you lazy. Please to exert yourself, for there is no real difficulty in understanding me. What I mean I may explain by an illustration of what I do not mean. The poet (Stasinus) sings-

Of Zeus, the author and creator of all these things,
You will not tell: for where there is fear there is also
reverence. Now I disagree with this poet. Shall I tell you in what respect?

Euth. By all means.

Soc. I should not say that where there is fear there is also reverence; for I am sure that many persons fear poverty and disease, and the like evils, but I do not perceive that they reverence the objects of their fear.

Euth. Very true.

Soc. But where reverence is, there is fear; for he who has a feeling of reverence and shame about the commission of any action, fears and is afraid of an ill reputation.

Euth. No doubt.

Soc. Then we are wrong in saying that where there is fear there is also reverence; and we should say, where there is reverence there is also fear. But there is not always reverence where there is fear; for fear is a more extended notion, and reverence is a part of fear, just as the odd is a part of number, and number is a more extended notion than the odd. I suppose that you follow me now?

Euth. Quite well.

Soc. That was the sort of question which I meant to raise when I asked whether the just is always the pious, or the pious always the just; and whether there may not be justice where there is not piety; for justice is the more extended notion of which piety is only a part. Do you dissent?

Euth. No, I think that you are quite right.

Soc. Then, if piety is a part of justice, I suppose that we should enquire what part? If you had pursued the enquiry in the previous cases; for instance, if you had asked me what is an even number, and what part of number the even is, I should have had no difficulty in replying, a number which represents a figure having two equal sides. Do you not agree?

Euth. Yes, I quite agree.

Soc. In like manner, I want you to tell me what part of justice is piety or holiness, that I may be able to tell Meletus not to do me injustice, or indict me for impiety, as I am now adequately instructed by you in the nature of piety or holiness, and their opposites.

Euth. Piety or holiness, Socrates, appears to me to be that part of justice which attends to the gods, as there is the other part of justice which attends to men.

Soc. That is good, Euthyphro; yet still there is a little point about which I should like to have further information, What is the meaning of “attention”? For attention can hardly be used in the same sense when applied to the gods as when applied to other things. For instance, horses are said to require attention, and not every person is able to attend to them, but only a person skilled in horsemanship. Is it not so?

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. I should suppose that the art of horsemanship is the art of attending to horses?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. Nor is every one qualified to attend to dogs, but only the huntsman?

Euth. True.

Soc. And I should also conceive that the art of the huntsman is the art of attending to dogs?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. As the art of the ox herd is the art of attending to oxen?

Euth. Very true.

Soc. In like manner holiness or piety is the art of attending to the gods?-that would be your meaning, Euthyphro?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. And is not attention always designed for the good or benefit of that to which the attention is given? As in the case of horses, you may observe that when attended to by the horseman’s art they are benefited and improved, are they not?

Euth. True.

Soc. As the dogs are benefited by the huntsman’s art, and the oxen by the art of the ox herd, and all other things are tended or attended for their good and not for their hurt?

Euth. Certainly, not for their hurt.

Soc. But for their good?

Euth. Of course.

Soc. And does piety or holiness, which has been defined to be the art of attending to the gods, benefit or improve them? Would you say that when you do a holy act you make any of the gods better?

Euth. No, no; that was certainly not what I meant.

Soc. And I, Euthyphro, never supposed that you did. I asked you the question about the nature of the attention, because I thought that you did not.

Euth. You do me justice, Socrates; that is not the sort of attention which I mean.

Soc. Good: but I must still ask what is this attention to the gods which is called piety?

Euth. It is such, Socrates, as servants show to their masters.

Soc. I understand-a sort of ministration to the gods.

Euth. Exactly.

Soc. Medicine is also a sort of ministration or service, having in view the attainment of some object-would you not say of health?

Euth. I should.

Soc. Again, there is an art which ministers to the ship-builder with a view to the attainment of some result?

Euth. Yes, Socrates, with a view to the building of a ship.

Soc. As there is an art which ministers to the housebuilder with a view to the building of a house?

Euth. Yes.

Soc. And now tell me, my good friend, about the art which ministers to the gods: what work does that help to accomplish? For you must surely know if, as you say, you are of all men living the one who is best instructed in religion.

Euth. And I speak the truth, Socrates.

Soc. Tell me then, oh tell me-what is that fair work which the gods do by the help of our ministrations?

Euth. Many and fair, Socrates, are the works which they do. Soc. Why, my friend, and so are those of a general. But the chief of them is easily told. Would you not say that victory in war is the chief of them?

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. Many and fair, too, are the works of the husbandman, if I am not mistaken; but his chief work is the production of food from the earth?

Euth. Exactly.

Soc. And of the many and fair things done by the gods, which is the chief or principal one?

Euth. I have told you already, Socrates, that to learn all these things accurately will be very tiresome. Let me simply say that piety or holiness is learning, how to please the gods in word and deed, by prayers and sacrifices. Such piety, is the salvation of families and states, just as the impious, which is unpleasing to the gods, is their ruin and destruction.

Soc. I think that you could have answered in much fewer words the chief question which I asked, Euthyphro, if you had chosen. But I see plainly that you are not disposed to instruct me-dearly not: else why, when we reached the point, did you turn, aside? Had you only answered me I should have truly learned of you by this time the-nature of piety. Now, as the asker of a question is necessarily dependent on the answerer, whither he leads-I must follow; and can only ask again, what is the pious, and what is piety? Do you mean that they are a, sort of science of praying and sacrificing?

Euth. Yes, I do.

Soc. And sacrificing is giving to the gods, and prayer is asking of the gods?

Euth. Yes, Socrates.

Soc. Upon this view, then piety is a science of asking and giving?

Euth. You understand me capitally, Socrates.

Soc. Yes, my friend; the. reason is that I am a votary of your science, and give my mind to it, and therefore nothing which you say will be thrown away upon me. Please then to tell me, what is the nature of this service to the gods? Do you mean that we prefer requests and give gifts to them?

Euth. Yes, I do.

Soc. Is not the right way of asking to ask of them what we want?

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. And the right way of giving is to give to them in return what they want of us. There would be no, in an art which gives to any one that which he does not want.

Euth. Very true, Socrates.

Soc. Then piety, Euthyphro, is an art which gods and men have of doing business with one another?

Euth. That is an expression which you may use, if you like.

Soc. But I have no particular liking for anything but the truth. I wish, however, that you would tell me what benefit accrues to the gods from our gifts. There is no doubt about what they give to us; for there is no good thing which they do not give; but how we can give any good thing to them in return is far from being equally clear. If they give everything and we give nothing, that must be an affair of business in which we have very greatly the advantage of them.

Euth. And do you imagine, Socrates, that any benefit accrues to the gods from our gifts?

Soc. But if not, Euthyphro, what is the meaning of gifts which are conferred by us upon the gods?

Euth. What else, but tributes of honour; and, as I was just now saying, what pleases them?

Soc. Piety, then, is pleasing to the gods, but not beneficial or dear to them?

Euth. I should say that nothing could be dearer.

Soc. Then once more the assertion is repeated that piety is dear to the gods?

Euth. Certainly.

Soc. And when you say this, can you wonder at your words not standing firm, but walking away? Will you accuse me of being the Daedalus who makes them walk away, not perceiving that there is another and far greater artist than Daedalus who makes them go round in a circle, and he is yourself; for the argument, as you will perceive, comes round to the same point. Were we not saying that the holy or pious was not the same with that which is loved of the gods? Have you forgotten?

Euth. I quite remember.

Soc. And are you not saying that what is loved of the gods is holy; and is not this the same as what is dear to them-do you see?

Euth. True.

Soc. Then either we were wrong in former assertion; or, if we were right then, we are wrong now.

Euth. One of the two must be true.

Soc. Then we must begin again and ask, What is piety? That is an enquiry which I shall never be weary of pursuing as far as in me lies; and I entreat you not to scorn me, but to apply your mind to the utmost, and tell me the truth. For, if any man knows, you are he; and therefore I must detain you, like Proteus, until you tell. If you had not certainly known the nature of piety and impiety, I am confident that you would never, on behalf of a serf, have charged your aged father with murder. You would not have run such a risk of doing wrong in the sight of the gods, and you would have had too much respect for the opinions of men. I am sure, therefore, that you know the nature of piety and impiety. Speak out then, my dear Euthyphro, and do not hide your knowledge.

Euth. Another time, Socrates; for I am in a hurry, and must go now.

Soc. Alas! my companion, and will you leave me in despair? I was hoping that you would instruct me in the nature of piety and impiety; and then I might have cleared myself of Meletus and his indictment. I would have told him that I had been enlightened by Euthyphro, and had given up rash innovations and speculations, in which I indulged only through ignorance, and that now I am about to lead a better life.

THE END

63 Responses

  1. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    ANSWER:
    – An action is morally good because God commands it.

    There are 2 reasons why I choose this option. Consider the following:

    1. The statement presupposes the idea that the quality of goodness we attribute to human action has a basis upon God as a source.

    2. God may command it but man alone has the power to direct himself. Unlike lower animals which are led by instincts, man’s acts are by conscious and free choice or election. That is why his freedom to act is authentic and responsible.

  2. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    ANSWER:
    -An action is morally good because God commands it

    God commands that action to be good because as we all know that God knows what is right from wrong. God will never command that action to be morally good if God thinks it should never be good.

  3. Answer:

    Morality – has three principal meanings.

    In its first descriptive usage, morality means a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    In its second, normative and universal sense, morality refers to an ideal code of conduct, one which would be espoused in preference to alternatives by all rational people, under specified conditions. To deny ‘morality’ in this sense is a position known as moral skepticism.

    In its third usage, ‘morality’ is synonymous with ethics, the systematic philosophical study of the moral domain.

    _God command it because it isa morally good_

    -for me,i choose this option because even we don’t know what the basis of what morality is,in which that god can be the source of all morality,we can still do what a moral thing is,because morality is innate to all human beings wether our basis of morality is through god or on our independent moral framework,morality is still there,but i think that the two statements are contradictory to each other because either of it is true…
    Note:the sentence which i wrote above is what i only think for myself,but i don’t really know what will i choose so i just choose the second one…

  4. “is an action morally good because the gods command it or the gods command it beacuse it is morally good?”

    answer:
    *an action is morally good because the gods command it.
    *i believe that our god loves us. he doesnt want his creation to be ruined.we as a creation of god we have our own abilities that god wants us to make use of and to enhance it. we are not like the animals or plant that just obey and obey and obey. we just like what i said earlier we have our own abilities and uniqueness, we have the ability to think, to decide and to love. as we grow we are taught on what is right and what is wrong.it is true that we also obey our god but what is beautiful about us as creation we think before we act and as we think and act we know that what we will act is our own reponsibility. and we act on what is right on the perspective of what is right.and also we act on the side that we dont want to hurt anybody or somebody we love, certainly God.

  5. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    ANSWER:
    – An action is morally good because God commands it.

    We all know that God himself knows the good from the bad. God tells us what is good from bad, but we have the ability to choose for ourselves whether to follow it or not. God will not give an action to be morally good if he does not like it. God will not command an action if he doesn’t think that it is morally good, because we all know that God does good things.

  6. an action is morally good because God commands it.
    oyea i think that an action is morally good because God commands it. I chose that because God is the source of everything we have and from Him comes all things of good virtues. According to Socrates “any state of action or passion implies previous action or passion. It does not become because it is becoming, but it is in a state of becoming because it becomes; neither does it suffer because it is in a state of suffering, but it is in a state of suffering because it suffers.”
    As in the above case, God commands first before the action becomes morally good. The command of God implies previous action prior to its becoming morally good. If you are thinking what is his purpose commanding Abraham to kill his first born. I think that He commanded Abraham to do that because he only wanted to test his faith. And yea that was only my opinion.hhe c;

  7. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    ANSWER:
    – An action is morally good because God commands it.

    ::I believe that this answer is true because generally, morality depends on the word of God. Whatever said in His words is moral because He knows the difference between right and wrong. Also, I believe that he wants us to be decent people who walk on His path of holiness and righteousness. Although, I do too believe that without God, we still have our moral stands and standards. But without God, morality merely becomes something that does not give significance and meaning to our life. With God, morality lives in us as our conscience that let’s us distinguish between the good and the evil.

    **Go Sir Odchi! IDOL! lab story ulet! hahaha =D…

  8. Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?

    ~An action is morally good because God commands it.
    – We know that God created us. God is like our king, commander, leader, etc., God knows what is good or what is bad, God will only command us to do good things, he will not command us to do bad things. But not all of us follow our God, Humans can decide on their own.

    (July 12,2008 12:48am) T_T

  9. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God commands it because it is morally good?”

    If I were in Euthypro’s place, I would tell Socrates that God commands an action because it is morally good. Judging from their conversation, they were obviously referring to their Greek gods who, in my opinion, are just lie the rest of us ordinary men – the only difference being thought of highly and with authority. Sure, they may have created some things but certainly not everything. They rule over them only. Besides, fighting with each other and being extremely pompous aren’t exactly what I would call godly. My point? Morality is something based on our reason. It is something in our nature that we recognize easily without having to think twice. We know something is moral based on our conscience and if we ever smudge the line between right and wrong, we have the laws. From Greek mythology, we were made aware of the gods’ earthly qualities – greed, egotism and adultery. Though they don’t command people to do the same, that is what their actions are implying. Now how could an action be morally good because gods command it?

  10. For me, an action is moral because God command it.

    God knows what is right and what is wrong because He is omniscient and omnipotent and He is our creator. So for me, an action is moral because He said so and WE OUGHT TO OBEY IT!=D

  11. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    Not everything that God commands is morally good. I’m not saying that God is bad or something. But I’ve read a story in the bible which I forgot and basing out of my memory. There’s this man who HAD a family. That man was very thankful to God because he WAS really blessed, even though he HAD a big family but he was really thankful and never forgot to thank God. But one day, God had a bet with someone ( I forgot, I’m only basing this out from my memory, if it serves me right) He bet that EVEN IF HE KILLED THE MAN’S FAMILY THE MAN WOULD STILL PRAISE AND THANK GOD. And yes, the man’s family died because of a disease. And still the man PRAISED AND THANKED GOD. (Pretty None sense)

    Again the question: “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    Like I said earlier, “Not everything that God commands is morally good” Basing from the story, GOD killed a family BECAUSE of a BET. But that’s not the topic, is it now?

    Here’s my answer:
    AN ACTION IS MORALLY GOOD BECAUSE GOD COMMANDS IT. God is our creator, surely he knows what is right and wrong for us. The story that I mentioned earlier, there must be a reason why he killed the man’s family. And I think that is he needs to prove that even though that he took away everything away from that man, he will still praise and thank him. Another thing, COMMANDMENTS, why’d you think he instigated them? FOR US TO FOLLOW, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT IT’S BEST FOR US TO FOLLOW IT AND BOTH OF US WILL BENEFIT UPON FOLLOWING IT.

    Out of Topic na ata ako. @_@

  12. MORAL
    -Anything that contribute to proper development and full actualization for human potential of the person.
    -derived from the latin word “mores” meaning “customs habitual way of doing things”.
    -It’s basic principle is “do good and avoid evil”.

    “Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    -GOD COMMAND IT BECAUSE IT IS MORALLY GOOD.
    All God’s commandment is morally good. One of the best example for this are the 10 commandments of God and the 2 Greatest commandments of God. God made those commandments for us to be morally good. God will never command anything that are not moral that will lead His people to something evil.

    Most evil is brought on by the free and unjustified actions of man called “moral evils”. It occurs when we VOLUNTARILY and become INVOLVED in the spread of pre-moral evil. It is not the fault of God why people are doing something evil. God doesn’t command it. We all know that God gave us the gift of FREE WILL, so it is really up to us to do things that can be morally good or evil. God will never ever command us things that are not moral. We are the one who are not following those moral commandments of God. That’s why my answer is God command it becuse it is morally good! Thank you!

  13. ANSWER:
    ►An action is morally good because God commands it.

    Morality itself is a philosophy,Morality speaks of a system of behavior in regards to standards of right or wrong behavior.It is just a principle govern by our behavior.

    “”AN ACTION IS MORALLY GOOD BECAUSE GOD COMMANDS IT””
    -I chose this answer because I believe that ALL of God’s command is good,no matter what it is and how it goes.Everything that comes from God is good because He Himself is a God of goodness.So we,as created by God,should abide and follow His teachings.

    On the contrary it does not follow that if God commands it it is moral.There are some moral standard that are actually set by man only.So therefore it still depends on the individual to which stadard of morality will he follow.

    Raymund Miguel F.Alvarez
    1IT-3

    ” Gud P.M sir!=) “

  14. “GOD COMMANDS IT BECAUSE THE ACTION IS MORALLY GOOD”

    I choose this statement mainly because I believe that the action, whether good or evil, are predetermined by the moral output of that action and is independent to what God has to command. In other words, God has no choice but to declare good actions as morally good and bad actions as evil. Unlike the statement, “actions are morally good because God commands it”; the action depends on how God wants to classify that action and declare it as morally good or evil. God is neither a dictator nor an authoritarian ruler that the reason he gave the 10 commandments is for us to know he is our master and we should follow and obey whatever he commands. No, God gave the commandments because he knows all actions in the commandments are morally good and he cannot change the output of these actions when executed.

    Sharing of love and material wealth to the needy is a good deed. Doing some charitable works especially in times of calamities and crisis is indeed one Christian obligation to help our less fortunate brothers. This action not only brings happiness to the people we helped but also gives joy to God because even though it was not clearly indicated in the 10 Commandments, God knows that helping the poor is morally good and we need not be dictated by the good result of such action. Hence, it was not God who dictates or commands this certain action but the mere result of such actions makes us realize that doing such would be morally good.

    On the contrary, greediness and selfishness are definitely an act of evil. Actions of this kind will lead to graft and corruption whether you are in the private or public office and could eventually cause killing your enemies or even innocent people as well. As you can see, one evil action causes disobedience of two (2) morally good commandments of God. So, assuming God dictates killing people is morally good, our conclusion would then be evil action (greediness) would lead to morally good action (killing) which is absolutely false. Therefore, actions are morally good because of its existing and unchangeable end result which God has no choice but to command and classify it as morally good actions.

  15. “GOD COMMANDS IT BECAUSE IT IS MORALLY GOOD”

    I choose this statement mainly because I believe that the action, whether good or evil, are predetermined by the moral output of that action and is independent to what God has to command. In other words, God has no choice but to declare good actions as morally good and bad actions as evil. Unlike the statement, “actions are morally good because God commands it”; the action depends on how God wants to classify that action and declare it as morally good or evil. God is neither a dictator nor an authoritarian ruler that the reason he gave the 10 commandments is for us to know He is our master and we should follow and obey whatever he commands. No, God gave the commandments because He knows all actions in the commandments are morally good and he cannot change the output of these actions when executed.

    Sharing of love and material wealth to the needy is a good deed. Doing some charitable works especially in times of calamities and crisis is indeed one Christian obligation to help our less fortunate brothers. This action not only brings happiness to the people we helped but also gives joy to God because even though it was not clearly indicated in the 10 Commandments, God knows that helping the poor is morally good and we need not be dictated by the good result of such action. Hence, it was not God who dictates or commands this certain action but the mere result of such actions makes us realize that doing such would be morally good.

    On the contrary, greediness and selfishness are definitely an act of evil. Actions of this kind will lead to graft and corruption whether you are in the private or public office and could eventually cause killing your enemies or even innocent people as well. As you can see, one evil action causes disobedience of two (2) morally good commandments of God. So, assuming God dictates killing people is morally good, our conclusion would then be evil action (greediness) would lead to morally good action (killing) which is absolutely false. Therefore, actions are morally good because of its existing and unchangeable end result which God has no choice but to command and classify it as morally good actions.

  16. “God commands it because it is morally good”

    The reason why did i choose this because for me God has a plan for us and that plan has a purpose. And for me, we have been given a free will for us to choose between good or evil. God wants us to be molded by our own mistakes and with that we will learn our actions, and will let us realize that God had made all this commands because He wants us to be a man of dignity and integrity. It is up to us whether we follow it as long as God knows what is morality in our actions.

    On the other hand, we can never teach religion without God’s commands and we will never know him as our Lord. There will be a lot of questions that will follow of our personality that will cage us of what we are for and what is our purpose that will make us think of our supreme being that will guide us when there is no hope for us. The only answer is FAITH

  17. “God commands it because it is morally good”

    The reason why did i choose this because for me God has a plan for us and that plan has a purpose. And for me, we have been given a free will for us to choose between good or evil. God wants us to be molded by our own mistakes and with that we will learn our actions, and will let us realize that God had made all this commands because He wants us to be a man of dignity and integrity. It is up to us whether we follow it as long as God knows what is morality in our actions.

    On the other hand, we can never teach religion without God’s commands and we will never know him as our Lord. There will be a lot of questions that will follow of our personality that will cage us of what we are for and what is our purpose, that will make us think of our supreme being that will guide us and bring us to a wonderful afterlife. The only answer in this question is we will never define morality as long as we don’t have our FAITH in our Lord because God is only principal cause of everything and with him all of these commands will follow as long as we trust and bvelieve Him

  18. God commands actions because they are morally good.

    What is MORALITY? The word morality is a noun that is concerned with what is right and wrong. Something good and just. What is GOOD? The word good has something to do with having positive or desirable qualities. Something suitable, helpful, giving enjoyment, pleasant, better than average, behaving properly, considerate, kind, something that is a benefit. Therefore, what is morally good? It is something proper, doesn’t have to be positive, but suitable. Something appropriate.

    Actions are not morally good because God commands it. Morality and goodness are based on the purpose of your action, and what outcome it brings. Following God is morally good but you have to think of others as well. Not just God.

    It could be that God wouldn’t command anything that would hurt his own creation. But morality itself, based on the dictionaries, the bible and other references don’t say something is morally good because God says so. They don’t say if God says this, it is morally good. They say something is moral because of the willingness and choice of the person to do well instead of doing the action just because God says so.

  19. Q.: “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    A.: “An action is morally good because God commands it.”
    To start it out, the term “morality” can be used in several meaning; but I see the word morality in this way. Descriptively, it is referred to a code of conduct put forward by a society or, some other group, such as a religion, or accepted by an individual for his/her own behavior.
    First, I, as a Christians have the reliance and belief in the certainty that the GOD, the Father exists. Therefore, REVERENCE for Him follows. Having the act of goodness and integrity each day will uphold the persona of being a good disciple to Him. AN ACTION IS MORALLY GOOD for the ground that we want to throw our love and high esteem to Him. The avowal I chose states that “Our actions and deeds (moral character as a person) are based on how we bestow value to our gods”. We opt to do what morality brings about for it will show our RESPECT to GOD. GOD COMMANDS IT simply because, “He will never want to see us having the wrong means”.
    Another here is an issue to which it states that, “God command it because it is morally good”. Apparently, I disagree to that because of my few reasons. Before, He sent His only son, (JESUS) to tell His people and know the good news and teachings about Him and encourages people to follow; and “It is now with us if we wanted to absorb and sop up what He has taught us”; (or I should say, it is now with the people if they wanted to believe in that.) He never forces every human being to believe in Him. Every individual has their own free will to choose their god and see things in the right way they wanted.

  20. Q.: “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    A.: “An action is morally good because God commands it.”

    To start it out, the term “morality” can be used in several meaning; but I see the word morality in this way. Descriptively, it is referred to a code of conduct put forward by a society or, some other group, such as a religion, or accepted by an individual for his/her own behavior.

    First, I, as a Christians have the reliance and belief in the certainty that the GOD, the Father exists. Therefore, REVERENCE for Him follows. Having the act of goodness and integrity each day will uphold the persona of being a good disciple to Him. AN ACTION IS MORALLY GOOD for the ground that we want to throw our love and high esteem to Him. The avowal I chose states that “Our actions and deeds (moral character as a person) are based on how we bestow value to our gods”. We opt to do what morality brings about for it will show our RESPECT to GOD. GOD COMMANDS IT simply because, “He will never want to see us having the wrong means”.

    Another here is an issue to which it states that, “God command it because it is morally good”. Apparently, I disagree to that because of my few reasons. Before, He sent His only son, (JESUS) to tell His people and know the good news and teachings about Him and encourages people to follow; and “It is now with us if we wanted to absorb and sop up what He has taught us”; (or I should say, it is now with the people if they wanted to believe in that.) He never forces every human being to believe in Him. Every individual has their own free will to choose their god and see things in the right way they wanted.

    *Revised 🙂

  21. God commands an action because it is morally good.

    Morality means a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    We can’t say that an action is morally good because God command it. An action is morally good if the effect or result of that action is right (meaning, a people is treated as a person). Yes we all know that God is the source of all good, and He is our creator. We should believe in Him but we also should consider others and not just God alone. We should always stick with the definition of morality.

    For example, if God asks us to kill somebody, yes we all know that He is God, our creator, but whoever he is, asking for that, we know that killing is a crime. Does it mean that killing is morally good because he said so? Of course it is not morally good. Whatever the purpose of that, it is still killing. Even though God was the one who told us to do it, killing is not morally good, and we have to stick with that. Morality is always based on the action and its effect. Not everything that God will command is morally good because He is God.

  22. Q.: ” Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    A.: ” An action is morally good because God commands it.”

    First, let me define “morality” it has three principal meanings.In its first descriptive usage, morality means a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.In its second, normative and universal sense, morality refers to an ideal code of conduct, one which would be espoused in preference to alternatives by all rational people, under specified conditions.In its third usage, ‘morality’ is synonymous with ethics, the systematic philosophical study of the moral domain.

    Man’s action is morally good because God commands it and if we have strong faith in Him. Man’s guided concerning what is right and what is wrong when God is within himself. It is shown through moral characters of a man and quality in his acting manners. He practices virtuous conduct and aware of self-righteous ways because of God’s commandments of teachingd man is free to choose what kind of life or sirection he is going to, all the needs is to obey God’s teaching or break those spiritual principles.

    GOd is morally good already even without his cammand. Law comes first before God commands it. God commands it because it id morally right and will benefit man and brings delight to God. When God created man, he created man according to his image man therefore id morally good but after the fall man suffered defravity do God instituted moral laws and keep them morally good. Yet that was not enough until the ultimate sacrifice for sin is paid by Christ’s blood.

  23. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    – For me, an action is morally good because God commands it. Lets face it, God knows everything and anything. He created everything in our world and therefore, knows what is good and what is not for us.He is our Father and just like our fathers here in this world,He would not command something that is not good for us. He commanded us to do good things and for us, we have the ability to choose whether we do it or not.

  24. Morality means doing the right things in the name of law. Moral means when your not using someone like a thing or some kind of like that.And morality is about goodness of the things you have done.

    “God commands it because it is morally good”

    example all the ten commandment are moral, so god commanded the ten commands, without god there is no morality, because god is the center of morality, god knows everything, he knows what is bad and the good, so if you are god will you choose bad? no. so he commands something that is morally good,

    if god commands it because it is morally good, it means people knows what is morally good so why do they need god to instruct them,

    basta all i can say is god is good,

  25. Q: “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God commands it because it is morally good?”

    A: God commands it because it is morally good.

    In Euthyphro’s dilemma, morality runs into 3 main problem.

    First, it implies that what is good is arbitrary. Secondly, it implies that calling God good makes no non-tautological sense. Thirdly, to explain the claim that murder is wrong.

    Just like one of the principles of morality it doesn’t create authority. It states that “a thing is not wrong because it is forbidden but it is forbidden because it is wrong”. Not because He is our God all that he’ll command are good things,what if there will come a time that he will tell us to disobey our parents? Of course if we believe that actions are morally good because God commanded them, then we will really disobey our parents. But based on the meaning of morality, it is knowing what is right and what is wrong, but DOING what is RIGHT. When we believe to this statement “God commands things because they are morally good” then we all know that He commands us to do things because they are morally right.

  26. An action is morally good because God commands it.
    My definition of terms: action is an act or thing done; moral is good or right in conduct or character; God is someone/something who you love the most and you devote your whole life to.
    Since i believe in a Christian perspective and that my God is a sovereign and a powerful God, which is Jesus Christ, my answer would be an action is morally good because God commands it.
    1. The simplest explanation to my answer is that GOD CREATED EVERYTHING. So in that case, only God has the power to label or command anything maybe if it is in His will or if it has pleased Him, because all of us are His creation. For me, when speaking of standards, God is righteous, and we are just moral because He is God, and we are just…well… human. So to elaborate it more properly, righteousness is a deeper and higher level of what is moral. So if is God is already righteous, whatever He commands must be moral.
    2. Since Jesus is God, and He created us, He is the most sovereign being not only in this planet but in the whole galaxy. So only He knows the whole truth about everything. Meaning, He knows what is more right than moral (which is righteousness).
    3. Our actions comes from our words. Our words come from our thoughts. Our thoughts come from us. And where do we come from? We come from God. In short, we are like machines. God is the inventor, so He is responsible for the image of the machine (us) and how it will work. If the inventor is wise then most probably the invention will also have that characteristic. Since God is righteous, whatever comes from Him must be righteous also. May it be people, things, or actions. If God is righteous, then everything that He would posses or do would have that also. Example: If a river is dirty, everything that is in it is dirty. The water is dirty, and the smell that it would release is stinky, and so on and so forth. So if God is righteous, everything that he would do, create, or command would be righteous.
    On the latter, if God commands it because it is morally good, I would say that it is impossible (for me ah). First, it would mean that morality is greater than God, and that God is pleased by moral actions instead of God creating actions that are moral. It seems that God is dependent on morality, and that He doesn’t know what would be the difference from right and wrong is until morality is introduced to Him. Then God wouldn’t be a God, because morality can be independent WITHOUT God.

  27. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God commands it because it is morally good?”

    -“an action morally good because God commands it” because morality itself came from God we even don’t know where it came from so for me the importance of morality is useless without God. Why we do good things? We do good things because we know that it is God wants us to do. We do it because for me I know that God knows what is best for us. So I follow what God wants me to do. “Everyone is different from each other we have different choices, it’s up to you what is your choice.”

  28. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God commands it because it is morally good?”

    An action is morally good because God commands it.

    What is Morality anyway? Morality is the rightness or wrongness as something judged by accepted moral standards. It states that something is moral if is proper and not against the law. If something’s done for a cause and somehow benefited others, it could be considered as a moral thing. On the other hand, Good means something that is valid, helpful, beneficial, favorable, meticulous, genuine and well-mannered. It has something to do with the outcome or result of a thing done to others that will benefit as well as the person who did this.

    A thing is indeed morally good because God commands it. Example related to this statement is when God executed a command to Abraham that he has to kill his only son, Isaac. Because Abraham has a strong faith and is loyal to God, he almost did kill his son; but then, when God proved that Abraham is faithful to Him, He commanded not to continue killing his son. This is just a test for Abraham but we all know that “killing” is against the law. It is not moral.

    As human beings, we don’t have the right to kill others. As stated in the Bible, The Ten Commandments, “thou shall not kill.” Killing means your ending or beginning to ruin someone’s life. It is immoral. It is an unjust action that will never benefit others especially you. Immoral things shouldn’t be done just because you think this will satisfy your feelings. This will never cause benefit or good for others. You should think about he effects first before executing or doing such thing or action.

  29. **EDITED

    If I were in Euthypro’s place, I would tell Socrates that God commands an action because it is morally good.

    Morality is something based on our reason. Hence, when a man chooses freely to do what is not in accord to reason he is said to be immoral. We know something is moral when our conscience tells us so since it is conscience that judges what is right and wrong in every action. There are actions that are in themselves easily seen to be good or bad. For example, everyone admits that to help another is good and to steal is always wrong everywhere. Those who do what is evil think that what they do is good. That is why we have positive human laws for everyone to obey.

    Judging from their conversation, they were obviously referring to the Greek gods who, in my opinion, are just like ordinary men – the only difference being, they are thought of highly and with authority. For the Greeks, they never knew the concept of creation. The gods did not create things; they rule over them only. From Greek mythology, we were made aware of the gods’ extremely man-like and earthly qualities – greed, egotism, adultery and the like. Though they don’t command people to do the same, that is what their actions are implying. Now if an action is morally good because those gods command it, there could and would be chaos everywhere. What is good or evil would constantly be confused and taken for each other and laws would recurrently change.

    Something would be moral when gods command it only when we base our answer on Christianity. For us, God is the cause of everything good. Murder is an immoral act but there are cases when in it could pass as moral. Recalling the case of Abraham, following God’s command is moral. God is the giver and taker of life. The fifth commandment, “Though shall not kill,” is for man and not for God. To kill one’s child (or whoever) is immoral but it in the case of Abraham, it is qualified. God commanded him to test him. Though morality is based on human reason, Abraham obeying God is way above it. He was following a higher reason, a divine one. That’s why what he did was right.

  30. “is an action morally good because the gods command it or the gods command it beacuse it is morally good?”

    -the gods command it because it is morrally good, the gods will not command it if it is not good or does not point to good thing, even though the process is complicated or bad. The gods put us in a task to know if we have their trust.

  31. “An Action is morally good because the gods command it”

    An action would be considered morally good because of the gods, because the gods would command it. unlike when we say the gods command it because it is morally good, it does not have a proof or whatsoever that the action is somehow “morally good”. because in the statement “An action is morally good because the gods command it” there could be a possible reason which is “Because the gods command it”. in the other hand, if we would be talking about christianity it would be clearly stated that everything that comes from god would be morally good, because it came from god. just like the word of god, almost everything stated in the word of god is considered morally good, which leads to the point that “An Action is morally good because the gods command it”

  32. God command it because it is morally good.

    In speaking of our own authority, moral is something which becomes right because of benefiting not only ourselves but for the sake of others. Which means, God let us live not only for ourselves but also for our neighbors. Being the highest form of living thing in the world, we must give proper care to what the creator had created. We are destined to work with others and especially to help them.

    Although there are so many gods for others to consider, a true God would never wanted his own people be in a state of immorality. Therefore, He wants us to do what is moral even it doesn’t benefit He, himself, but benefits the whole mankind. He only desires what is the best for us and not only the best but also just.

    In my own perception, the opposition seems to be unjust and dependent. And it most likely says that Gods control us which seems to be wrong. God didn’t give the precise definition of morality; instead He gave us the concepts that will serve as our basis in morality. He only gave his rules but not forced us to follow. That is why He gave us our own mind; to choose or to decide for ourselves. If He is really controlling us, then why should He need to put Himself in a test wherein man may or may not obey him instead of just creating all man as morals.

  33. “is an action morally good because the gods command it or the gods command it beacuse it is morally good?”

    My answer wuold be “God command it because it is morally good”

    Because God love his people.He want His people to experience love and happiness. So He give them Doctines of Morality. If the people will follow the doctrines of morality commanded by God, they will experience love and happiness. For example, it is not right to have many wives according to the Christian philosophy. We are not allowed to have more then one wife because it will hurt the feeling of the other wife and also the children, it will create divisiveness and chaos to the family. There is no justice in it. But if man has only one wife, it is good and just. The man gives his love and honor ro his family. And we can say that that man is moral.

    Define the term “morality”

    Morality according to Euthyphros Dilemma means the actions of people according to what is good and what is just.

    Premises

    Morality is good and just. Loyalty to your wife is good and just. Therefore, loyalty to your wife is moral.

    Argument for the opposition

    In contrary to the statement “ an action is morally good because God commands it “, We cannot accept that an action is moral if it only conform to the rule of law set by the people much more if there is no just in it.

  34. “is an action morally good because the gods command it or the gods command it beacuse it is morally good?”

    Answer:
    An action is morally good because the gods command it.

    For me i chose this option because i define and see morality as a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    Which means that God is the source of goodness and the one that knows what we ought to do. Like in the story of Abraham when he was about to kill his only son because God commanded him to. For Abraham even if it hurts him to kill his only son. He thinks that whatever god commanded to him is the right thing to do. But in the end God stopped Abraham because he was only testing abraham’s faith to him. In short our god could never command such things to us like kill our own flesh and blood or anything that is wrong. Because he created us in his own image. It is impossible that we the one whom he created is only going to be destroyed by him.

    Generally, Our Gods are the ones who guide us. What is the use of Gods that we believe in if we think that whatever he/she commanded us is not morally good?

  35. ***EDITED***

    “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    ANSWER:
    – An action is morally good because God commands it.

    First of all, what is morality? What is the precise definition of the word “morality”? For me, morality is the basis for distinguishing between right from wrong. Morality is the voice of conscience that tells us to do the right thing in our everyday lives. It is the knowledge of what actions or deeds are right and good.

    I believe that this answer is true because generally, morality depends on the word of God. Whatever said in His words is moral because He knows the difference between right and wrong. Also, I believe that He wants us to be decent people who walk on His path of holiness and righteousness.

    Although, I do too believe that without God, we still have our moral stands and standards. The moral stands that we have are our gifts of free will and conscience. That is our besis of knowing what is right or wrong. But without God, morality merely becomes something that does not give significance and meaning to our life. With God, morality lives in us as our conscience that let’s us distinguish between the good and the evil.

    **pasensya, medyo magulo. haggard ako ee hahah. saket ulo huhuh.

  36. “Is an action morally good because God commands it or does God commands it because it is morally good?”

    Answer:
    God commands it because it is morally good

    Action is said to be morally good because God commands it and I believe also that God will not lead us to harm. As christians we must follow the ten commandments. Why? Because I also believe that all of his commandments will become very helpful to us in our daily life and also to the future, so while we are young let us practice these commandments for us to become a good citizen not just to our country but also to this world. We do actions based on morality rather than authority because we believed that in everything we do, God is above all.

    As I read this article I learned that piety or holiness is learning how to please the Gods in word and deeds, by prayers and sacrifices. Such piety is the salvation of families and states, just as the impious, which is unpleasing to God is their ruin and destruction.
    For me the two ethical terms of moral is right and wrong. Because God is benevolent this two meaning coincide that God is, however, free to command other than he has done and if he had chosen to command, for example, that murder was morally right, then the two meanings would break apart, effectively choosing the second horn of the dilemma: God just happens to command what would be good in any case (“eutheism”), but allowing for a hypothetical scenario where God decides to become malevolent (“dystheism”).

  37. “Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God commands it because it is morally good?”

    My answer is “God commands it because it is morally good.”

    First, we define the term morality. Morality means; the quality of being morally right or the doctrine of man’s moral duties.

    Now, I chose this statement as my answer because we all know that we Christians believe that we are all created by God, gave us our life we are living right now, and all the things here on earth. And for us Christians, we follow what God says because he is the source of all goodness. He gave us the ten commandments so that we have 10 laws on how we see an action, if it is moral or not. He is the only one who can judge whether an action is moral or not. He is the base of all things. He is the standard of all things. He knows about everything. Because he is the creator of all things, So everything he says to us, anything he commands us. Any action that he would like us to do is moral. Because he is the only one who can say on when is something right and moral.

  38. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    ++++++++++++++++++

    , What is morality? First it is an accepted moral standards: standards of conduct that are generally accepted as right or proper. Second, how right or wrong something is: the rightness or wrongness of something as judged by accepted moral standards. Third is, virtuous behavior: conduct that is in accord with accepted moral standards. And fourth it is a moral lesson: a lesson in moral behavior.

    , Morality is roughly build or grounded on our argue, thus is only requires knowledge of the conscience not needing Gods. In this narrative, Socrates and Euthyphro are denoting the greek gods and goddesses which they were arguing whether an action is piety or impiety. Euthyphro was pursuing his own father of murder but his action is impetuous since he is accusing his own father that is hostile to gods’ commands. But for Euthyphro he was just doing a pious deed for he knows murder is wrong whether someone did it or just a person relative to you.

    , Just like what Euthyphro said, “The real question is whether the murdered man has been justly slain. If justly, then your duty is to let the matter alone; but if unjustly, then even if the murderer lives under the same roof with you and eats at the same table, proceed against him”. We are all aware that killing is a wicked action, without the help of gods we would still know that it is immoral.

    , When the gods said that you must kill a person to glorify gods would you do it? If an action is morally good because the gods command it, in this case killing is moral, right? Thus, my answer is “God commands it because it is morally good.”

  39. -God command it because it is morally good.-

    Morality speaks of a system of behavior in regards to standards of right or wrong behavior. The word carries the concepts of: a)moral standards, with regard to behavior, b)moral responsibility, referring to our conscience and c)moral identity, or one who is capable of right or wrong action. Ethics, principles, virtue, goodness and righteousness are words that are also connected to morality.

  40. -God command it because it is morally good.-

    Morality speaks of a system of behavior in regards to standards of right or wrong behavior. The word carries the concepts of: a)moral standards, with regard to behavior, b)moral responsibility, referring to our conscience and c)moral identity, or one who is capable of right or wrong action. Ethics, principles, virtue, goodness and righteousness are words that are also connected to morality.

    Moral is commanded by God because it is moral. He says what He says because he knows it is right. He’s commandments follow what is right. Morality transcends God. Even without God, morality will still exist. It is because people have moral intuition, a subconscious sense of right and wrong, a conscience. Many people believed that the concept of right and wrong are “programmed” in each one of us.

    If moral is moral because it is commanded by God, then it implies that what is good and what is right are arbitrary. It means that morality is just based on what God desires. What if God said it was ok to kill innocent people? Or what if He says it is moral to kill unbelievers? Would that make it moral? If we would say that God will not say those things, then who we are, mere mortals, to say what He would and would not say?

  41. //“Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”//

    My Answer: God command it because it is morally GOOD

    What is somethging moral?what is something good?
    When we speak about something moral it involves the rightness and wrongness of an act,it relates to issues of being right or wrong and to how individual people should behave. Something good is considered to be valid,honorable, pleasant,beneficial,favorable. genuine and the act of being helpful.

    In my point of view, God or the gods command something because it is morally good. Because morality is being set not just to please God or the gods but to set a standard to attain orderliness and harmony within the community.Not everything being favored by the gods just like the Greek Gods can be considered just and rightful. God commands something because HE himself knows that it is something proper, not because HE JUST WANTS IT OR FAVORS IT. Even without God morality would still exist, because we humans have instincts and the awareness of what is right and wrong, what is moral or immoral. Therefore, if we say that something is moral becaue God commands it or God loves it, then if God tells you to harm others or commit murder, then murder would be considered something moral?Just think of it…
    (I do believe in God and has FAITH in Him, these are just my opinions… ^^)

    ….jaja…..(“,)

  42. //“Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”//

    My Answer: God command it because it is morally GOOD

    What is somethging moral?what is something good?
    When we speak about something moral it involves the rightness and wrongness of an act,it relates to issues of being right or wrong and to how individual people should behave. Something good is considered to be valid,honorable, pleasant,beneficial,favorable. genuine and the act of being helpful.

    In my point of view, God or the gods command something because it is morally good. Because morality is being set not just to please God or the gods but to set a standard to attain orderliness and harmony within the community.Not everything being favored by the gods just like the Greek Gods can be considered just and rightful. God commands something because HE himself knows that it is something proper, not because HE JUST WANTS IT OR FAVORS IT. Even without God morality would still exist, because we humans have instincts and the awareness of what is right and wrong, what is moral or immoral. Therefore, if we say that something is moral becaue God commands it or God loves it, then if God tells you to harm others or commit murder, then murder would be considered something moral?Just think of it…
    (I do believe in God and has FAITH in Him, these are just my opinions… ^^)

    ….jaja…..(”,)

  43. Morality is defined as the quality of being in accord with standards and a system of ideas of right and wrong conduct.

    “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
    (2 Timothy 3:16,17)

    I think this short passage from the Bible can answer the question: “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    An action is based on human intellect and emotions. You can choose whether you perform the said task or not. But we should consider how will the action takes place and affect the people surrounding us, the teachings of the Scriptures, and the will of God. We have the right or the freedom to choose whether to act good or to act evil. It’s a matter of choice. But to think that we are almost Christians, we have been told the Good News and the Scriptures. We must portray what the Scriptures wants us to reflect on. It is also considering the instinct that God commands us to do this part, to make us good follower and not bringing us down, just only for His own sake. God wants His children to be better and not for worse. God made the Scriptures to tell us what is right from wrong. God opened up our minds and hearts to all the good works and not for evil thoughts. God’s commands only tests us how our faith be strengthen or weaken after going into the process, distinguishing right from wrong, good or evil. I am not basing my words on the dialogue above but putting my own experiences to express reaction.

    Therefore, my answer should be “An action is morally good because God commands it”.

  44. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    Morality means a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    Then I chose the answer, The Gods command it because it is morally good.

    I chose this claim because we are believed to be religious and has beliefs to Gods. Therefore, I think the Gods would not command those if they will don’t have a purpose. The Gods gave us our lives so they have the rights to take it back so we don’t have a choice but to obey their commands and they are not that hard. Being moral is based on emotions on how we will feel about something. The Gods have a purpose for all of us and we just have to trust them for our own sake.

    Again, My answer is The Gods command it because it is morally good.

  45. ****EDITED****

    “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    Answer : An action morally good because God commands it.

    Morality is concerned with what is right and wrong.
    For me the action is morally good when God commands it. We all know that Gods are our creator and all of God’s word are morality good because only God know what is good for us, what is right for us. Gods only commands us to do good things, Gods will never command us to do bad things, but humans can choose what is good or what is bad for them.

    God command it because it is morally good.
    God will only command us when they know that it is morally good.

  46. God commands it because it is morally good

    First of all what is morality? For me, morality is something to do with the right and the wrong. I chose “God commands it because it is morally good” because God knows what is right and what is wrong. God knows what is best for us. But Not all good are right and not all bad are wrong. It only depends on the situation and depends on our vision. All of us on the world have different situation so we have different concepts in life, different pictures in life, and different goals in life. God gives us complicated problems in complicated situation for us to be tested. God is always there for us to guide us it only depends on us on how we will apply His teachings. Another reason of this is for us to have in experience in life and that is where we commit mistakes. It is ok to commit mistakes because we can learn from our mistakes and we can share it to other people who seek for help and guidance. Our knowledge about the good and the bad expands through our experience. Then, there will be a time were we need to decide, just follow your heart and have a faith in God.

    > ang gulo ng utak ko!! hahaha
    ~John Kevin “Kosme” D. Mallari 1IT-3

  47. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    -An action is morally good because God commands it.

    Morality means a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    An action is morally good if the person believes it has a good effect and this belief comes from his perspective of reality in which God is part of it. I believe that whatever God wants and commands are morally good because he knows the difference between right from wrong. As we all know, he is God of goodness. He set commands for us to follow in order to have guide and direction in life. As a children of God, it is our obligation to protect and to give importance to all of his creation. We should be responsible enough to continue his goodness in this world.

  48. Morality(based on Euthyphro’s dilemma)

    I define morality in Euthypro’s dilemma as mortals we are independent to God because of his divine intelligence and for the reason that God has a always a good reason for everything that happens.

    Question:
    “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    Answer:
    God command it because it is morally good.

    People are known to be religious. They depend to their God especially when in times of need. Therefore, I say that whatever happen to us in our daily lives, God knows it,God commanded it. God is known to have the divine intelligence in w/c he knows what is best to us. Although sometimes we look at the given command as a big problem because we mortals do not the future or next thing going to happen, but as we go on with it, we slowly step-by-step understand that it is morally good and God has a good reason for commanding us to do it. It’s just a choice for us mortals to choose to do good or bad. God is all-knowing and will not lead us surely to virtues lacking of moral.

  49. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    For me the God command it because it is morally good.

    But first and foremost, what is morality?
    Morality is defined as conformity to the rules of right conduct.

    In my own opinion, Gods should be the model of our lives. He should be the one who shows us what is right from wrong.
    They have the right to command us what to do. Since He is our God, He knows very well what’s better for us.

    God will not command it if it is wrong. If it is not upright. He will not command His people to do it if He himself knows that it is immmoral.

  50. (edited part II) God commands it because it is morally good. so we can differentiate bad from good. Humans will conform on the commands that God has given to us. He will not command something that would be inappropriate in His sight.

  51. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    -God command it because it is morally good.

    I define morality as the matter of right or wrong created by society, religion and by individual. We all know that God commands us things that is best for us. God give us problems that will develop our personality and faith to him. God knows whats best for us thats why he command us things that we will have benefits. God is good, God did not created humans just to be hurted. God loves us all.

  52. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    -God commands it because it is moral.

    Morality means a scheme of behavior seized to be dependable in matters of being right and wrong. It refers to an ideal system of behavior – one would be supported in preference to choices by all rational people under particular conditions. Morality is also synonymous with ethics which means the logical philosophical study of the moral domain.

    God commands it because it is moral. In the first place, God will not command it if He know that it is not right. God knows the difference between right and wrong. Even without God, morality can stand alone because it surpasses God. If God is not with us people, morality will stay as morality. It is certain that moral deeds are the right ones. Even if God does not command it, we have our own approach to distinguish what is right and what is wrong.

    If an action is morally good because God commands it, it means that what God says, even if it’s morally wrong, is still moral. It implies that what is commanded by God is moral and morality can’t stand alone without God. And if God does not command it, does it follow that it’s already immoral?

  53. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    Answer..:

    Morality, it is all about Right and Wrong.
    It is CREATED by RELIGIONS, philosophy, and an individual conscience.
    Morality is good. It makes our community in order. It is the one who makes an individual think what should do to make their life better in a good way. It also gave us information of what is not to be done.

    Of course God commands it. God loves us. He dosen’t He gave this to man’s consent. So that Man will know what is best for him.

  54. Of course God commands it. God loves us. He doesn’t like us to suffer and die. He gave this to man’s consent. So that Man will know what is best for him; Man’s Actions can be helpful to others.

    Some Actions are morally good, because every individual in this world has his own god/s, and I’m sure that, those god/s command their believers to make their Actions morally done.

  55. arhhh!!

    I’m Confused na!

    ~~~hahaha… Find the little Smiling face!!

    hahahah..

  56. edited na po to sir!

    An action is morally good because God commands it.

    I think that an action is morally good because God commands it. I chose that because God is the source of everything we have and from Him comes all things of good virtues.

    According to Socrates “any state of action or passion implies previous action or passion. It does not become because it is becoming, but it is in a state of becoming because it becomes; neither does it suffer because it is in a state of suffering, but it is in a state of suffering because it suffers.”

    As in the above case, God commands first before the action becomes morally good. The command of God implies previous action prior to its becoming morally good.

    If you are thinking what is his purpose commanding Abraham to kill his first born.I think that He commanded Abraham to do that because he only wanted to test his faith. And yea that was only my opinion.

    On the contrary, maybe God commands it because it is morally good. God would not command it if it is not moral. Maybe just to test our faith. But some blind obedience leads to terrorism and violence. Still, the person has the ability to choose his own decision. He can just believe and not obey because he knows what is right and the right thing for him. No accounting for taste. We can never blame him for what he want’s to do.

    aww palayo ng palayo sagot ko..walang aww sa pau c;

  57. -“God commands it because it is morally good”.-

    Morality is about right and wrong not good and evil. Our action is right when we treat
    human beings as persons and not as things. A human being has an intrinsic value, a rational being and has freedom and rights. It is about right and wrong because not all good are right and not all evil are wrong.

    I have chosen the second statement because it shows that morality is doing the right thing and doing the right thing is what God loves. The morality in the first statement is dependent on god. What about terrorism? For Islams to die for their god is good but it is not the right thing to do. Same goes with morality the right thing should be prior to the good. Also, the first statement states our moral dilemas that is based on our customs that somehing is moral because it is believed to be good but not all good are right.

    “Something is moral because the god commanded it.” Religion make us beleive that everything that god commands is good. But in other religion to kill oneself for god is good but it is not right and according to the meaning of morality the right is prior to the good. Our faith is the foundation of our morality it teaches us good values and guide us in the right path but it is still up to us to decide on what is the right thing to do.

  58. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    A: -An action is morally good because God commands it.

    Define the term Morality.
    Morality means a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    I believe that God loves all of His creation. God wants what is best for us. Maybe He only gives us problems to challenge our Faith to Him and to be a better person.
    I believe that whatever He commands us is morally good because He will not lead us in the wrong direction, And He wants us to reach His Kingdom and be at His side. and God as our Father, will not allow things that will cause destruction and harm to his son.

  59. “I do believe that God commands an action because it is morally good.”

    God pertains to any of various beings conceived as supernatural, immortal or having special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature. It is an image excessively honored and admired. In monotheistic religions, God is the creator and ruler of the universe. On the other hand, Morality is the character of being in accord with the principles or standard as of right conduct. It is the quality of rightness or wrongness of an action.

    I based my conclusion to the fact that I know as a Christian. God is divine and holy. He is the creator of the world and among all His creations man is the most capable of all since He created us in His image and likeness, which is visible in the bible. We, humans should act in accordance to God’s will, meaning that our action should be exceptionally good since this is what pleases God. The Golden Rule states that we should love God above anything else and love thy neighbors as we love thyself. Love is the most mystifying thing I know yet the most visible of all. God is love, thus, God never created sins to be committed. To commit a sin is a choice that we have as we live the gift of life.

    If an action is moral because the gods command it then there would be a conflict. If I will pertain to the Greek Mythology then it could be possible. The gods have different principles and standards. Most of the time they quarrel, they disagree with each other. Therefore, morality depends on the values that they believe to be true or false. This is indeed different to the God that I know from the time I began to question and understand things.

  60. -“GOD COMMANDS IT BECAUSE IT IS MORALLY GOOD”-

    God is the divine being or the highest among all. Moral is the distinction of right and wrong. Good is the outcome of an action that should be beneficial to someone.

    It is when God commands it because it is morally good, because God knows which is moral or the creator of morality. And it is when he commands it becomes morally good. It also explain here that in his words tells that the only thing God want us to do is morally good and he will never let us do something wrong.

    In the first proposition that ” An action is morally good because God commands it” tells that morality existed before God which totally contradict the belief that God is morality.

  61. “Is an action morally good because God commands it,
    or does God command it because it is morally good?”

    morality is defined as a code of conduct held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong, morals are created by and define society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience.

    “No society has invented a way to TEACH morality without religion” this statement is supported by my definition.

    therefore religion has to be created to have morality.

    Therefore, an action is morally good because the gods(the creator of a certain religion) command it.

    but on the other hand, god command it because it is morally good

    because whatever the religion is, morality is based on the “END” of the person. whether the end of another person is affected.

  62. 1. “Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?” An action would be considered morally good because of the God, because the Gods would command it. Unlike when we say the Gods command it because it is morally good, it does not have a proof that the action is somehow morally good. Morality is the matter of right or wrong created by society, religion and by individual. An action is morally good because the gods command it” there could be a possible reason which is “Because the gods command it”. In the other hand, if we would be talking about Christianity it would be clearly stated that everything that comes from god would be morally good, because it came from God. Almost everything stated in the word of god is considered morally good that is why we came to a conclusion that “an action is morally good because the God command it”

    haizzT..!10″,)

  63. ako riel nahanap ko. haha peace, sir, nakikisingit lang. :))

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